Unfortunately I'm not sure I'll ever be able to watch Mel's webinars, but I did take some time to read back though Mel's @scientiatrader tweets, with comments added as we go. Tweet typo's :) have not been corrected.:
June 5: -£125.96 loss today....Could feel the market was trending against me today so decided to bail out and take a small loss for today.
Markets don't conspire to trend against anyone. Does anyone ever make the claim that markets are conspiring favourably for them?
June 5; £484.78 profit for today. A late one as stayed up to trade the paraguayan division 1 match.
June 5; £484.78 profit for today. A late one as stayed up to trade the paraguayan division 1 match.
Denzillion's Iceland Division 2 joke wasn't a joke.
June 1: £322.38 profit..Great to be back in action sooner than anticipated so will be trading over weekend as well to start generating momentum for the new week approaching.
Momentum doesn't carry over from one independent event to the next independent event.
Mar 30: there is nothing more frustrating than not trading and seeing opportunities go by...painful....
Except when the day starts with three losses...
Benet - Mel BET365 limit your stake if you win in the long term.
Mel - Yes I would assume so but to be truthful I only use them once or twice every 2-4 weeks..and remember my win rate on a trade by trade basis is around 53% so will see.
Where did that 60% strike rate come from? Thailand League? And yes, consistently (50% to 60%) winning on 2.8 shots will soon see an account restricted or closed.
Bertje - Maybe a stupid question, but what are the benefits of a trading tool?
Not a stupid question at all. I'm not seeing anything that requires anything more than a press of Enter.
Terms such as 'battle' and 'fighting' aren't helpful. You're gambling, and on some pretty strange leagues it has to be said, and sometimes your gambles will win, other times they will lose. It's called probability.
Price too high? Hesitation? This isn't sounding like a very scientific approach.
Get those cheque books ready on August 1st. Just in time for the new domestic season.
Action in fourteen markets on this day. So the quit after three losses is a new idea, and not a very good one.
Back to school for some science lessons. This is not scientific.
Why are we needing to top up an account?
There's no Premium Hand in football betting. It's a term from poker that has no meaning or relevance when betting on individual events / matches. As for the webinar, I found it more of an eye closer.
Doesn't make sense. If time is the issue, there would be no need for a maximum of four. Gambling would be constrained by time. Some days your window might have no matches, other days it might have 14 (or more).
£4.96. Break even day today. The way I trade within 3-4 trades I know if the market is on side and if not will finish day with small loss or break even. I completely believe in the cyclical nature of the distribution of wins and losses and am patient to wait for premium hands.
£4.96. Break even day today. The way I trade within 3-4 trades I know if the market is on side and if not will finish day with small loss or break even. I completely believe in the cyclical nature of the distribution of wins and losses and am patient to wait for premium hands.
Repeating myself, but markets don't take sides. As for believing in the cyclical nature of the distribution of wins and losses, I'm struggling to square that with:
You can only learn if you embrace the good the bad and the ugly of how trading results are distributed because for years I tried to fight probability and this hindered my progress. It was only by accepting uncertainty that I found peace with my trading.Understanding probability and variance is the key, and again, Premium Hands don't exist in this context.
April 21: the randomness of late goals is just bizarre..of the 5, bundesliga division 1, games today, 4 of them had goals after 88 minutes....there is simply no way any strategy would have predicted that....
Exactly. So why claim to have a 'scientific' strategy that overcomes the randomness?
Apr 19: -£125 loss for today. Some resistance to breaking the 5K barrier. Happy to lose the battle today as the casualty is minimized
There is no 5k barrier or resistance. These are terms taken from financial markets where a price or an index is at a certain level, and traders are reacting to it. Unless there's a derivative market where the underlying security is Mel's Betting Bank, I'm afraid this is complete and absolute bollocks.
Hope isn't going to cut it. It is not a SINGLE market. It is multiple INDEPENDENT markets.
No comment, but it sounds very scientific.
Later...
I was fast approaching my daily maximum loss and so took a 5:1 risk to reward ratio on my final trade of the day and it saved the day. Felt good after what happened with the Real vs Juventus where I curled up into bed and cried myself to sleep.
Yep, there's that 'trading with no emotion'.
Apr 9: Scientific way behind how I trade which eliminates the wild variance seen in other punter/gambling mindset approaches. Trading trumps gambling.
At this point I was almost back to the start. There was more talk of markets being cyclical, and inappropriate use of 'equity' from which we can deduce Mel isn't experienced in the world of finance, and the claim that of 2076 matches studied "this year, 40% had 1 or more goals after 80min".
40% would mean that the price after 80 minutes on the Over x goals market would be about 2.5. Where the 60% strike rate came from I've no idea. Where the 2.8 price came from I've no idea. Wishful thinking? Or some data mining 'revealed' an edge in Paraguay and Thailand?
In summary, and to put it politely, this so-called project is a lot of nonsense.
It is not scientific in any way.
There's a complete failure to understand that markets are independent, that markets don't have mood swings and neither do they conspire against anyone.
There's confusion over variance and how it presents itself.
Equity is not the same as cash. Mel's bank reaching 5k is just an arbitrary figure. There's no market barrier or resistance. Suggesting other-worldly forces are conspiring is just nonsense.
There are other inconsistencies. First games are watched, and then they are not watched - just the Betfair screen is watched.
And sports investing is not a battle or a war. It's about finding an edge long-term over other players in each market. If there are goals after 80 minutes in 40% of matches, others will know this. If Paraguay and Thailand have a 60% strike rate, it's unlikely the market which will also know this, will price the probability at 37.5% (2.8).
A fancy website and painfully loooong webinars might look good to the uneducated reader, possibly with a generous offer in August to invest in this project and share the riches, but just a cursory glance behind the curtain reveals several red flags that this is not all it seems.
The edge claimed is simply unbelievable, and were it anywhere like that claimed, Mel should be applying fractional Kelly to it, making as much money as possible from it while it lasts, and not giving his edge away.
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Mel's been around for a while, if you look on the wayback machine you can see his earlier attempts at selling his services :) Also had a thread on the BetAngle forum trying to sell his wares too
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